Legislature(2023 - 2024)ADAMS 519

03/23/2023 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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01:33:13 PM Start
01:35:36 PM Presentation: Spring Revenue Forecast
02:02:49 PM Presentation: Willow Project Update and Fiscal Analysis
03:07:35 PM HB39 || HB41
03:08:22 PM Public Testimony: off Nets
04:35:54 PM Adjourn
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+ Presentation: Willow Project Update and Fiscal TELECONFERENCED
Analysis by Owen Stephens, Commercial Analyst,
and Dan Stickel, Chief Economist, Department of
Revenue; and John Crowther, Deputy Commissioner,
Department of Natural Resources
+= HB 39 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUND; SUPP TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
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+ Presentation: Spring Revenue Forecast by TELECONFERENCED
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<Above Presentation Rescheduled from 3/22>
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
HOUSE BILL NO. 39                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan  program  expenses  of state  government  and  for                                                                    
     certain   programs;    capitalizing   funds;   amending                                                                    
     appropriations;    making   reappropriations;    making                                                                    
     supplemental   appropriations;  making   appropriations                                                                    
     under art.  IX, sec.  17(c), Constitution of  the State                                                                    
     of  Alaska,  from  the  constitutional  budget  reserve                                                                    
     fund; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 41                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive mental health  program; and providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:07:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson reviewed the public testimony protocol.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^PUBLIC TESTIMONY: OFF NETS                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:08:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANNA   GRACE  JEFFRIES,   PRIMARY  PREVENTION   COORDINATOR,                                                                    
ADVOCATES   FOR    VICTIMS   OF   VIOLENCE,    VALDEZ   (via                                                                    
teleconference),   thanked  the   committee  for   including                                                                    
increased  funding for  prevention  work.  She stated  there                                                                    
were strategies  to prevent  violence. The  organization had                                                                    
introduced evidence-based  curriculum such  as the  Girls on                                                                    
the Run  program and hoped  to have  the Let Me  Run program                                                                    
for boys in the coming  summer. She shared that the previous                                                                    
month,  the  organization  invited  the  Alaska  Network  on                                                                    
Domestic  Violence  and  Sexual   Assault  to  assist  in  a                                                                    
presentation at  the Valdez  High School  on Bree's  Law and                                                                    
Erin's Law. She discussed  the benefits of the presentation.                                                                    
The  organization helped  provide  direction and  strategies                                                                    
for the community to come  together and to prevent crime and                                                                    
change community norms so that  violence against women, men,                                                                    
and children would no longer be tolerated.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:10:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MOIRA  GALLAGHER,  SELF,   ANCHORAGE  (via  teleconference),                                                                    
called in  support of  adding $15  million to  the childcare                                                                    
grant  program to  increase wages  for childcare  providers.                                                                    
She is a  mother of two young children. Her  younger son had                                                                    
been on  10 daycare waiting  lists for longer than  his life                                                                    
due to a  lack of daycare in Anchorage.  She elaborated that                                                                    
her  son could  not get  into  a daycare  due to  a lack  of                                                                    
facilities and  caregivers at  open facilities.  She relayed                                                                    
that many  daycares had closed due  to a lack of  staff. She                                                                    
emphasized that caregivers needed  to keep up with inflation                                                                    
and  be  competitive  because  it   was  necessary  to  keep                                                                    
talented  workers in  the childcare  field. She  shared that                                                                    
she and her husband were now  spending more than $5,000 on a                                                                    
nanny. She  shared it  was almost  her husband's  entire net                                                                    
monthly  income  after  taxes.   She  underscored  that  the                                                                    
workforce shortage  was real, and people  were leaving their                                                                    
jobs because they could not  find childcare. She shared that                                                                    
her family  was privileged to  have the ability to  afford a                                                                    
nanny, but just  barely. She urged the committee  to add the                                                                    
funds.  She  spoke  about the  benefits  of  the  additional                                                                    
funding.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:12:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TIFFANY   MILLS,  EXECUTIVE   DIRECTOR,  HELPING   OURSELVES                                                                    
PREVENT   EMERGENCIES   (HOPE),   PRINCE   OF   WALES   (via                                                                    
teleconference), spoke  in support  of funding  for domestic                                                                    
violence  prevention and  services.  She shared  information                                                                    
about the advocacy  work HOPE provided to  victims of sexual                                                                    
assault  and domestic  violence. She  was supportive  of the                                                                    
Council  on Domestic  Violence  and  Sexual Assault  (CDVSA)                                                                    
victim  services budget.  She  thanked Representative  Ortiz                                                                    
for his  support of  victims' services  on Prince  of Wales.                                                                    
She relayed that the organization  had not closed during the                                                                    
COVID-19  pandemic and  the numbers  of individuals  seeking                                                                    
help increased  each year.  She detailed  that in  2022, the                                                                    
organization provided services for  around 130 adults, which                                                                    
was double  the number  assisted in 2018.  Additionally, the                                                                    
organization  had  fewer staff  in  2022.  She relayed  that                                                                    
without the  one-time increment funding  of $6.5  million in                                                                    
the CDVSA  budget, there would  be a shortage from  the 2022                                                                    
funding. The  organization was appreciative that  the budget                                                                    
allowed  victim  services  providers to  receive  consistent                                                                    
funding  as in  previous  years; however,  the costs  facing                                                                    
rural Alaska  were higher and  were continuing  to increase.                                                                    
She cited  examples of  the cost of  goods in  rural Alaska.                                                                    
The  agency was  also facing  staffing shortages  because it                                                                    
had  just  begun  offering  health  insurance  to  full-time                                                                    
employees to compete with other  employers on the island and                                                                    
it was  being very conservative about  its hiring practices.                                                                    
She  shared  that when  the  organization  got insurance  in                                                                    
2022, it  cost $4,000  per month. She  stated that  HOPE did                                                                    
not want to be priced out of  the market and have to cut the                                                                    
benefit for employees; however,  premiums had increased $400                                                                    
per  month in  the  current year.  She  hoped the  committee                                                                    
could  find  more  available  funding  to  support  victims'                                                                    
services.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:15:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JENA  CRAFTON,  SELF,   EAGLE  RIVER  (via  teleconference),                                                                    
shared that  she had  been out  of work  for six  years. She                                                                    
spoke in support of reducing  the waitlist for people to get                                                                    
services for improved  quality of life. Her  dad was helping                                                                    
her to try to get a job  by driving her. She shared that she                                                                    
was learning how to drive.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:17:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CARRI   CRATER,   SELF,  ANCHORAGE   (via   teleconference),                                                                    
supported  the  addition of  $15  million  to the  childcare                                                                    
budget. She shared that her  childcare expenses increased 40                                                                    
percent since  COVID. She shared  that her family  had spent                                                                    
over  $40,000 on  childcare the  past year.  She highlighted                                                                    
the  difficulty of  finding quality  childcare. She  thought                                                                    
the  situation was  a real  problem for  the workforce.  She                                                                    
noted  that  childcare  providers were  shutting  down.  She                                                                    
spoke to the importance  of increasing funding for childcare                                                                    
providers    to   enable    increased   staff    wages   and                                                                    
accessibility.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:19:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARIA LEGEND,  SELF, ANCHORAGE (via  teleconference), shared                                                                    
that her son  was diagnosed with schizophrenia  in 2015. She                                                                    
elaborated that her  son had been in and  out of psychiatric                                                                    
hospitals and jail. She provided  details. She believed that                                                                    
if  she  and   her  son  had  enough   help,  guidance,  and                                                                    
educational resources  they would  not have been  faced with                                                                    
many unnecessary issues. Her son  wanted to get his GED, but                                                                    
he  was  still in  need  of  continuous care,  IDD,  housing                                                                    
healthcare directives,  and guardianship papers.  She shared                                                                    
that  she was  a  recovering alcoholic  and  had dealt  with                                                                    
grief and  depression in the  past. She advocated  on behalf                                                                    
of Alaska  Native people who were  struggling with resources                                                                    
and  education  to  overcome  the   burdens  of  mental  and                                                                    
behavioral health  issues. She  asked for  increased funding                                                                    
for the  Division of Behavioral Health  crisis now continuum                                                                    
of  care  grants,  peer  support,  homelessness  assistance,                                                                    
behavioral  health treatment  recovery grants,  IDD waitlist                                                                    
reduction, and disability services grants.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:22:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TOM CRAFTON, SELF, EAGLE  RIVER (via teleconference), shared                                                                    
that he was representing his  daughter Jenna Crafton and 700                                                                    
others who  were currently  on the  developmental disability                                                                    
waitlist for receiving  a Medicaid waiver to  enable them to                                                                    
have meaningful lives. He had  been helping his daughter for                                                                    
25 years  and seeing  she had a  meaningful life.  He stated                                                                    
that he would  not be here forever, and he  did not know how                                                                    
she would  survive later in  life without support. He  was a                                                                    
highly trained  behavioral clinician, but he  could not work                                                                    
in his  field and  help others  while his  daughter suffered                                                                    
without  the  services  she  was  entitled  to  receive.  He                                                                    
highlighted the  workforce shortage. He stated  his daughter                                                                    
was  quite  able to  work  (she  had  called in  to  testify                                                                    
previously) and wanted to provide  for herself. He asked how                                                                    
many  other people  were  home taking  care  of their  loved                                                                    
ones. His  mom was  now living  in his  home. He  noted that                                                                    
more people were taken out  of the workforce with the senior                                                                    
population as well.  He stated it was time  to eradicate the                                                                    
waitlist. His  daughter wanted transportation to  and from a                                                                    
good job.  He appreciated all  of the hard  work legislators                                                                    
were doing.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:24:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AMANDA   FAULKNER,  ALASKA   ASSOCIATION  ON   DEVELOPMENTAL                                                                    
DISABILITIES, KENAI  (via teleconference), advocated  for an                                                                    
additional  Medicaid   increment  of  $15  million   UGF  to                                                                    
stabilize home and community-based  services while the state                                                                    
worked to address flaws in  the rebasing system. The funding                                                                    
would be  matched by  an additional  $15 million  in federal                                                                    
funding  (a  10 percent  increase  in  Medicaid rates).  The                                                                    
increment  would provide  bridge funding  to prevent  system                                                                    
collapse during the process of  addressing flaws in the rate                                                                    
methodology system.  She clarified the request  was separate                                                                    
from  the  $647,000  increment  as  requested  to  fund  the                                                                    
infrastructure  needed   to  start  implementation   of  the                                                                    
waitlist elimination  plan. She  elaborated that  rates were                                                                    
implemented in  2011 and should  have been  reestablished at                                                                    
least every  four years using provider  data collection. She                                                                    
reported that rates  had not been reestablished  in 2014 and                                                                    
2018 despite  regulatory requirements.  She stated  that the                                                                    
significant lack  in responding  to increased cost  had been                                                                    
exacerbated  by  the  pandemic   and  reduced  services  and                                                                    
workforce  shortage. She  detailed that  some providers  had                                                                    
gone out of business  and other organizations had calculated                                                                    
a path to closure within  one to three years. She elaborated                                                                    
that system  capacity did not  currently exist  with smaller                                                                    
providers; therefore, the delivery  of care would default to                                                                    
larger institutional settings  at a much higher  cost to the                                                                    
state, including out of state  placements. She remarked that                                                                    
the state's plan would fail  if the provider system was weak                                                                    
to the  point of  not being  able to  support people  with a                                                                    
wide variety of disabilities.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:27:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JON  ERICKSON, CITY  MANAGER, YAKUTAT  (via teleconference),                                                                    
thanked  the   legislature  for  the   community  assistance                                                                    
recapitalization  and  an  increase   in  the  Base  Student                                                                    
Allocation (BSA).  He stated  the community  did not  have a                                                                    
ferry for  the summer because  of the Kennicott  [the Alaska                                                                    
Marine  Highway  System (AMHS)  announced  it  did not  have                                                                    
sufficient crew to run the  Kennicott ferry in the summer of                                                                    
2023].  Additionally,  the  community was  always  short  on                                                                    
childcare. He reiterated his thanks to the committee.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:28:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATHLEEN  FITZGERALD, SELF,  SOLDOTNA (via  teleconference),                                                                    
shared   that  her   40-year-old   daughter  was   autistic,                                                                    
nonverbal,  and  required  full personal  care  support  and                                                                    
close  supervision. Her  daughter  had a  loving and  caring                                                                    
heart and a beautiful smile.  She shared things her daughter                                                                    
loved to do including hiking,  being in the woods, going for                                                                    
drives with  her dad, and going  to Home Depot. She  and her                                                                    
husband  were  in their  70s  and  had  had worked  hard  to                                                                    
prepare   for  when   they  pass;   however,  many   of  the                                                                    
developmental  disability  agencies were  facing  challenges                                                                    
attracting  staff  to  care for  disabled  individuals.  She                                                                    
urged the committee to include  an additional $15 million to                                                                    
stabilize agencies. She highlighted  the anxiety she and her                                                                    
husband  had over  their daughter's  future. She  referenced                                                                    
hard work related to the  Harborview Developmental Center in                                                                    
order  to  provide  community support  for  children,  which                                                                    
allowed  for  family and  community  input  at a  much  more                                                                    
reasonable cost. She thanked the committee.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:31:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  SOLOMON, CEO,  ALASKA  BEHAVIORAL HEALTH  ASSOCIATION,                                                                    
KOTZEBUE   (via  teleconference),   supported  funding   the                                                                    
recommendations  made  by  the Alaska  Mental  Health  Trust                                                                    
Authority  (AMHTA).  He  provided  details  about  the  work                                                                    
performed by  the Alaska  Behavioral Health  Association. He                                                                    
shared  that  he had  started  as  a therapist  flying  into                                                                    
remote  villages  and  saw  how difficult  it  could  be  to                                                                    
deliver care, but  he had also seen how much  care changed a                                                                    
community  and  saved money  by  treating  people when  they                                                                    
needed  it  before  it  was   too  late.  He  stressed  that                                                                    
something needed  to be  done. He  supported taking  care of                                                                    
the most vulnerable Alaskans by  funding a behavioral health                                                                    
system.  He  spoke  in support  of  funding  the  behavioral                                                                    
health system,  which would avoid throwing  good money after                                                                    
bad. He stressed  when cuts were made, the  state paid more.                                                                    
Additionally,  when flat  funding  was  provided, the  state                                                                    
paid more. He thanked the committee.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  remarked  that  the  organization                                                                    
represented  groups that  did  not  necessarily qualify  for                                                                    
1115 waivers. He noted there  had been some backfilling with                                                                    
COVID funding of behavioral health  grants. He asked how Mr.                                                                    
Solomon  viewed the  governor's  budget in  terms of  grants                                                                    
outside the 1115 waiver and continuing need.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Solomon replied that grants  allowed for the building of                                                                    
capacity to  stand up  services. He  stated that  when there                                                                    
was  no ability  to start  services, the  state kept  losing                                                                    
providers  and care.  There was  an  opportunity to  provide                                                                    
startup funds  to get providers  going. He noted  that COVID                                                                    
funding had provided some of  the opportunity, but the funds                                                                    
had not been sufficient to stand up the 1115 services.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:35:14 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:36:06 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
TOM  MORPHET, SELF,  HAINES (via  teleconference), testified                                                                    
in   support  of   increased  funding   for  Alaskans   with                                                                    
disabilities  and  families  struggling with  childcare.  He                                                                    
shared that  he ran for  legislative office in 2018  and all                                                                    
young families  wanted to talk  about was childcare.  He was                                                                    
also  concerned about  people dying  in  state prisons,  the                                                                    
lack  of  funding  for  the  Alaska  Marine  Highway  System                                                                    
(AMHS),  and  inadequate  funding  for  public  schools.  He                                                                    
wanted  to be  taxed. He  stressed  that the  state had  $80                                                                    
billion in  the bank  and "we are  acting like  paupers." He                                                                    
found it  very frustrating. He asked  for the implementation                                                                    
of  an income  tax.  He  underscored the  need  to act  like                                                                    
Alaskans and have courage to do what was right.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:38:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAWN  WALDAL-ANDERSON, MAYOR,  WHALE PASS,  PRINCE OF  WALES                                                                    
(via   teleconference),   testified   in  support   of   the                                                                    
recapitalization   of  the   community  assistance   program                                                                    
funding.  She shared  that Whale  Pass  was Alaska's  newest                                                                    
city and it  had incorporated just over five  years ago. The                                                                    
funding  from the  community assistance  fund accounted  for                                                                    
almost   75  percent   of   the   community's  budget.   The                                                                    
community's city clerk was its  only employee. The community                                                                    
was working hard to build  up its infrastructure to become a                                                                    
self-supporting and  independent city. She reported  that if                                                                    
community  assistance  funding  was  not  recapitalized,  it                                                                    
would put  the community in a  very uncomfortable situation.                                                                    
She thanked the committee.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:39:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN    SONIN,    CIVILIZED     HUMANITY,    DOUGLAS    (via                                                                    
teleconference),   thought  it   sounded   like  the   other                                                                    
departments could  use the pay  increase that had  just been                                                                    
given to the legislature and  executive branch. He could not                                                                    
believe  what  the  basics  cost.   He  stated  the  funding                                                                    
designated  for  a  pay  raise   would  be  better  used  on                                                                    
education. He  asked if  the state could  not spend  $600 to                                                                    
$1000 more on students but  it could spend a substantial sum                                                                    
on the executive branch. He  thought that there needed to be                                                                    
some  sense  in  the  budgeting   process.  He  thanked  the                                                                    
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:42:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EMILY CARROLL, SELF,  ANCHORAGE (via teleconference), shared                                                                    
that she is  a pastor. She loved her work  but thought about                                                                    
quitting because  of the  difficulty finding  childcare. She                                                                    
elaborated  that  the provider  she  had  found was  closing                                                                    
because  other opportunities  provided more  money. She  had                                                                    
called  every place  in town  and could  not find  childcare                                                                    
because so many  childcare workers did not  get paid enough.                                                                    
The state  was lacking  workers and many  moms or  dads were                                                                    
having to stay  home with their kids because  they could not                                                                    
find affordable  childcare. She encouraged the  committee to                                                                    
add $15 million for childcare grant wages.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:44:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUE LIBENSON,  SELF, HAINES (via  teleconference), supported                                                                    
funding  for  AMHS.  She stressed  that  the  situation  was                                                                    
critical. She  shared that teachers were  leaving and people                                                                    
were quitting because people could  not come and go from the                                                                    
community.  She   received  calls  from   people  expressing                                                                    
incredulity  that they  were unable  to make  a reservation.                                                                    
She  highlighted  the once-in-a-generation  federal  funding                                                                    
that required  a state  match. She  remarked that  the state                                                                    
needed  to step  up and  provide a  full match  in order  to                                                                    
qualify for over  $100 million in federal  funds. She stated                                                                    
the  situation  impacted  the military  deployed  up  north,                                                                    
school  teams, a  lack of  medical services.  She emphasized                                                                    
that Haines was  losing valued members of  the community due                                                                    
to lack of ferry service.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:46:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ERIC  GURLEY,   EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR,  ACCESS   ALASKA  INC.,                                                                    
ANCHORAGE  (via   teleconference),  supported   funding  for                                                                    
independent  living centers.  He shared  that Access  Alaska                                                                    
was one of  the state's four centers  for independent living                                                                    
in  Fairbanks,   Anchorage,  Fairbanks,   Mat-Su,  Southwest                                                                    
Alaska,  and  other  locations. The  organization's  efforts                                                                    
assisted   individuals  and   families   to  improve   their                                                                    
independence  and  enabled  Alaskans  with  disabilities  to                                                                    
remain in  their own  homes and  communities. He  noted that                                                                    
one  of  the  largest programs  provided  consumer  directed                                                                    
personal   care  services   to   qualifying  Alaskans.   The                                                                    
workforce  shortage  created   significant  challenges  with                                                                    
filling  the  need.  He  elaborated  that  Alaska's  service                                                                    
providers continued  to struggle with filling  vacancies. He                                                                    
thanked  the  committee  for  its  support  for  senior  and                                                                    
disability  services community  based  grants. He  requested                                                                    
the  addition   of  an  increment  to   support  participant                                                                    
directed  care.  The  model  placed  employment  and  budget                                                                    
authority  in  the  hands  of those  who  need  and  receive                                                                    
services. He  stated that  the ability to  hire a  friend or                                                                    
family member  to provide needed  support was the  next step                                                                    
of meeting the needs of  Alaskans. He asked the committee to                                                                    
support an  increment to  initiate a  program for  Alaska to                                                                    
begin the effort. He thanked the committee.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk thanked Mr. Gurley for calling in.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Johnson   relayed   there  were   no   additional                                                                    
testifiers  currently in  the room  or online.  She recessed                                                                    
the meeting until 4:10 p.m.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:48:57 PM                                                                                                                    
RECESSED                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:14:09 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson  noted there were no  additional testifiers                                                                    
online. She recessed the meeting until 4:30 p.m.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:14:09 PM                                                                                                                    
RECESSED                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:30:53 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
RICK   NELSON,   SELF,   ANCHORAGE   (via   teleconference),                                                                    
testified   in   support   of  funding   for   people   with                                                                    
disabilities  and their  services. He  referenced a  lack in                                                                    
workforce  due   to  the  rate  caretakers   were  paid.  He                                                                    
testified in  support of increased wages  for caretakers. He                                                                    
shared that  the rate for home  and community-based services                                                                    
had not increased in the past  12 years. The 10 percent rate                                                                    
increase in the  past year had not helped  anyone. He stated                                                                    
an  increase  of   at  least  13  percent   was  needed  for                                                                    
individuals to  earn a living  wage. He stated  that without                                                                    
the  increase,   the  agencies  would  die.   He  urged  the                                                                    
committee to pass the budget with the increment.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin thanked Mr.  Nelson for calling in and                                                                    
for his leadership. She was grateful for his work.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson noted there were no additional testifiers.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HB  39  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HB  41  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson reviewed the schedule for the following                                                                        
meeting.